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sábado, agosto 27, 2005

El acto del regateo

Una de las cosas que más nos llaman la atención a los occidentales a la hora de viajar a China es el "fenómeno" del regateo. Acostumbrados a pagar precios escritos en etiquetas, los europeos preguntamos el precio de los artículos y si nos parece bien lo compramos.

CHINA IS DIFFERENT.

Hay que cambiar la mentalidad. Y si de verdad quieres conseguir buenos precios debes esforzarte al máximo en realizar ese teatro que es el regateo. Parece bastante sencillo, pero hay que probar unas cuantas veces para sondear el precio real del artículo en cuestión. Puede que quieras comprar unas zapatillas nike y de primeras te las ofrezcan por unos 30 euros. A lo mejor piensas ¡que barato! La mitad que en mi país, y además es el últimó modelo con cámara de aceite y levitrógenos flusluminescentes. Te puedo asegurar que un chino no las compraría por más de 5 euros. Y ahí precisamente radica la habilidad del regateador occidental. En intentar acercarse (y sin pasarse a su precio justo) al precio que pagaría un ciudadano chino. Hay que tener en cuenta que los dependientes chinos nos ven como un negocio, e intentarán sacarnos todo lo que puedan. No hay que tener piedad (que duro soy). Hay que regatear hasta la extenuación.

A continuación una serie de trucos y referencias de precios que nosotros pagamos en el gran mercado de ropa de Shanghai. Puede que creais que las marcas que hemos comprado son falsas. Pero os aseguro que después de examinar concienzudamente las etiquetas durante largo tiempo, no encuentro ninguna diferencia con los originales. Mucha gente nos ha dicho que los chinos las sacan de las fábricas de los stocks sobrantes. La verdad no lo se.

CONSEJOS A LA HORA DE REGATEAR.

- El primer precio que te ofrezcan, seguramente va a ser unas 4 o 5 veces el precio que puedes conseguir. Si bien hemos encontrado casos de comprar cosas por 20 veces menos su precio inicial.

- Hay que hacer aspavientos y teatro. No seais tímidos. Los chinos gritarán, reirán, harán que se enfadan, actuarán de poli bueno y poli malo, se irán, dirán que es la oferta especial para ti. Ni caso. Hay que ser duros. Hay que bajar ese precio. Si te lo venden es que están ganando dinero contigo. Ellos son muy listos. Si no ganaran dinero no te lo venderían.

- Ejemplo de regateo:
- Nostros: Cuanto valen esas zapatillas Puma?
- Chino: MMM, estas son muy caras, justo has elegido el ultimo modelo, recien salido de la fabrica.
- Nosotros: Ya, pero cuanto?
- Chino: MMM, 50 euros.
- Nosotros: (Mientras haces gesto de sufrir un infarto) 50 euros!!, eso es imposible, con eso podría comprarme toda la tienda.
- Chino: (mientras sufre por bajaros el precio). No, no , son de muy buena calidad. Por ser españoles. Os lo bajo a 40 euros. Cuanto me das?
- Nosotros: (Con gesto seguro). 40 euros no es el precio de esto. Yo te doy 2 euros.
- Chino: El chino, indignado guarda las zapatillas y dice que eso es un insulto.
- Nosotros: Haces que te vas.
- Chino: Te persigue y te pregunta si de verdad quieres las zapatillas.
- Nostros: Le dices que si, que has comprado por aqui muchas cosas, y que ese no es el precio. Le ofreces 3 euros.
- Chino: Dice que es verdad que 30 es mucho, pero que 3 es poco y que por favor le ofrezcas un precio sensato. Llama al de la tienda de al lado y le dice que mira que poco le ofrecemos. El de la tienda de al lado se tira al suelo y rie en señal de desprecio a nuestra cantidad monetaria. Bajan a 20 euros.
- Nosotros: Le explicamos que somos muy pobres y estudiantes. Que con 20 euros podriamos comer aqui durante 2 meses y que necesitamos ese dinero para comer. Ya que solo tenemos para todo el viaje unos 15 euros. Ofrecemos 4 euros.
- Chino: nos dice que eso es imposible y que los europeos somos ricos. Nos baja a 15 euros.
- Nosotros: Haces que te vas de nuevo, simulando colera por el precio que te ofrecen.
- Chino: Te persigue gritando que te baja a 10 euros. De nuevo es su última oferta.
- Nosotros: Le ofreces 5

Esto ya entra en un rifi - rafe, que puede acabar en 5 6 o 7 euros, pero no más. Muchas veces no regateas más porque estás cansado y es un coñazo. Pero si esres persistente conseguiras auténticas gangas. Os pongo un ejemplo de precios que pagamos nosotros.

- Zapatillas puma nuevo modelo , con los cordones laterales: Precio visto en España: 100 euros. China: 7 euros.
- Abrigo Armani de ante, dos piezas. La ostia de bonito: 17 euros.
- Plumas Timberland: 15 euros.
- Camisetas variadas Quicksilver, Nike, etc. 3 euros.
- Bolsos Gucci, versace, Luis Vouitton (nunca habia oido antes esta marca, pero parece ser que es muy buena): 5 euros.
- Rolex (este si que era imitacion total, no como lo otro): 3 euros.
- Chandall adidas: 8 euros.

Y así hasta los 55 kilos de más que facturamos a la vuelta, jejeje, menos mal que las lineas aereas Finlandesas no nos hicieron pagar de más.

Un saludo a todos y gracias por habernos leido todo este tiempo.



351 Comments:

At 10:12 a. m., Anonymous Rafael said...

Me ha gustado mucho como relatas la acción de comprar. Leyendolo con mi mujer hemos revivido con agrado aquella aventura, pues para mi, que no estoy acostumbrado a las compras, fue toda una aventura alucinante.
No se si podré poner un enlace a tu pagina como me dices que harás con la mia, pues soy nuevo en esto y no sé si sabré hacerlo.

 
At 1:11 p. m., Anonymous Anónimo said...

me gustaria que me explicaras domde caMBIAR DINERO , si en España o en china,

 
At 11:19 p. m., Anonymous Anónimo said...

me gustaría saber que se puede comprar barato en pekin voy la semana que viene

 
At 11:21 p. m., Anonymous Anónimo said...

quiero encargar a una amiga cosas que va a pekin y quiero saber que puede comprar alli de moda, interesante y muy barato con respecto aquí. Gracias.
Que es lo más interesante?

 
At 2:42 p. m., Anonymous Rebo213@gmail.com said...

Hola, encontre vuestra pagina y os la habeis currado mogollon le estoy sacando mucha informacion ahora que me voy a Shangai. Lo del regateo me viene muy bien para saber hasta donde intentar exprimir a los vendedores, he estado en sitios como Brazil, Marruecos... donde esta a la orden del dia. Lo unico que la mayoria de la mercancia que pillas en China suelen ser falsificaciones, de mejor o peor calidad, pero falso al fin y al cabo... Un saludo!

 
At 2:20 p. m., Anonymous Anónimo said...

hola, el proximo viernes me voy a china y me gustaria saber que ropa debo llevarme.

 
At 8:52 p. m., Anonymous Anónimo said...

Hola!

Me ha encantado la web y he pasado un buen rato leyendo los relatos. Este verano nos gustaría irnos a China un grupo de amigas y tenemos bastante curiosidad sobre el tema de las aduanas... Según he leido en otros foros a la salida de China apenas revisan maletas ya que les conviene el turismo... sin embargo, en la llegada al aeropuerto de España es más problable que las revisen y en ese caso se quedan con TODO, lo tuyo y lo comprado, ya que no saben q traes comprado como replica y que no. Me podríais comentar algo sobre este tema?

Gracias por adelantado!

 
At 4:31 a. m., Anonymous Anónimo said...

hola estoy leyendo vuestra pagina y me ha gustado mucho... me pregunto si tienes algun contacto o alguna distribuidora de aquellos lejanos lugares... te dejo me mail... diegoduris@hotmail.com desde ya muchas gracias

 
At 7:03 p. m., Anonymous Anónimo said...

El regateo es como en el resto de Asia y los precios similares, pero ...

¡Que iluso eres si crees que todo eso que compraste no es falso!

 
At 4:18 p. m., Anonymous Anónimo said...

Hola, estoy planeando un viaje a China y una de las ciudades que quiero visitar es Shangai. Con los precios que tienen allí las prendas de ropa es probable que traiga las maletas llenas para mí y mi familia. ¿Podría pasar mis maletas llenas de ropa sin que se queden con todo? Me da igual que en la etiqueta ponga Dior o Versace porque se las quitaría en China si eso puede traerme problemas en la aduana. Si no podéis ayudarme vosotros querría alguna web de ayuda si la sabéis.
Muchas gracias.
Genial vuestra web. Felicidades.

 
At 3:49 p. m., Anonymous Anónimo said...

a mi me lo requisaron todo en la aduana de España, todo todito lo que traía de china. Asi que 1) q sepas q lo que haces no es legal y 2) q sepas que te puede pasar la proxima vez q te pese mucho la maleta y te la paren...y aunque no te pese mucho.

 
At 1:56 p. m., Anonymous Anónimo said...

Creo que eres el rei del regateo, llevo viajando a china un tiempo por negocios y siempre vamos de compras para traernos el vestuario a casa, felicidades por toda la información que cuentas! Y YO TAMBIÉN TENGO SERIAS DUDAS DE LO QUE ES FALSO Y LO QUE ES VERDADERO.

 
At 1:39 a. m., Anonymous Anónimo said...

Hola a todos.-Soy sudamericana y la verdad que vuestra página me ha servido mucho , pues la he leído antes de viajar a China.-Mi viaje fue a principios de julio , fui a Pekin, Xian,Dazu, Chongqing, crucero por el Rio Yangtse , y Shangai.-Referente a las compras, les cuento que el mercado de las imitaciones en Shangai cerró el 1º de julio pasado, así que si queréis comprar imitaciones, debéis aprovechar en Pekin, donde hasta que volvi permanecía abierto.-Ahora sí ,les digo que no he comprado tanta cosa en el mercado de las imitaciones, he comprado más por ejemplo en la peatonal de Beijing : estaban de liquidación de temporada y los precios eran buenos , por cierto bastante más bajos que en Europa y también en el mercado Yuyuan en Shangai.-Para que se hagan una idea de lo que es el regateo , les cuento una anécdota, en el mercado de Shangai compré los colgantes de Feng Shui para traer de regalo a los amigos a 4 yuanes cada uno, en el mercado de las imitaciones de Beijing me pidieron por los mismos 50 yuanes cada uno.-Creo que no hay que pagar más del 10% de lo que te piden, y no sé si todavía no pagas de más.-
En cuanto al tour, todo fue estupendo, muy bien organizado , tuve compañeros españoles y algunos otros sudamericanos también y la pasamos muy bien.Eso sí si piensan ir en julio o agosto, el calor es extenuante,y hay mucha humedad, sobre todo porque en Beijing por ejemplo el primer día de visitas ( Plaza Tian'An Men, Ciudad Prohibida y Palacio de Verano, caminas 6 kilómetros!!!.-
Lo que más me impresionó fue La Gran Muralla ( por cierto!!) , los caballeros de Terracota en Xi'An , las esculturas budistas de Dazu ( vale la pena el viaje, son impresionantes) , Fengdu ( ya en el recorrido del crucero ) y la represa de las Tres Gargantas .-Les diré que Chongqing ( de donde parte el crucero) com ciudad es más impresionante para mí que Shangai.-
Bueno, espero que mis comentarios les sirvan de algo como a mí me han servido otros comentarios de esta página.-

 
At 12:48 p. m., Anonymous Anónimo said...

Volvi anoche de China y en el tema compras, teneis toda la razón. No hay que pagar nada de lo que te dicen como primer precio.

Tal y como alguien preguntaba más arriba, ejemplos de cosas de marca que hemos comprado bien de precio, para que os hagais una idea si teneis que ir y pensais comprar: deportivas Puma, Nike, etc por 6€, camisetas Custo Barcelona, D&G, Versace, Armani, y todas estas marcas por 6-8€. Ropa interior Calvin Klein des de 0'50€. Pantalones de cualquier marca por 7-8€, chaquetas The North Face 15€, Pashminas 2'5€, ropa deportiva o camisetas de selecciones de futbol des de 5 a 10€..

Bolsos de cualquier marca conocida, yo compre uno Gucci por 15€, Guess 10€, Chanel 15€, etc.

Tema electronico Ipod nano 2GB por 115€, discos duros externos de 400GB por 130€, PSP 120€ con juegos, memoria externa y mas cosas dependiendo de lo que le saques al vendedor! jeje. Targetas de memoria tambien vale la pena.. en ese tema esta muy bien, lo que no cambi mucho de precio son las camaras de fotos, portátiles y móviles.

El dinero lo podeis cambiar en el aeropuerto, ya que en España casi imposible. 1€ equivale a 10 Yuanes más o menos, depende del cambio.

Creo que el mejor mercado para ocmprar es el de la Seda, en la parada de metro de "Yonganli". Tiene 4 plantas con casi de todo. Muchos de los dependientes hablan ingles, y alguno que otro español!
Creo que el truco es saber tu que quieres pagar por cada cosa, y no dejarte llevar por lo que te ofrecen. Puedes empezar diciendo: "dos tiendas más allá me lo dejan por..€, si me lo dejas igual o menos te lo compro a ti, sino me voy ahi" y seguro q te dan el precio que pides. Es mejor que preguntar por el precio de cada cosa.

Lo que tambien esta bien son los taxis, yo solo coji el metro un dia, ya que media hora en taxi son unos 3'5€. Pero muchas veces los taxistas no saben ni donde van, o eso pretenden, para poder darte una ruta turistica extra.

Si teneis cualquier duda sobre algo que querais comprar, a ver si os puedo ayudar!!
Helena

 
At 3:38 p. m., Blogger Salva said...

Hola! Voy a China en Semana Santa y estaremos en Pekin y Shanghai. Sitios para comprar ropa?

 
At 4:03 p. m., Anonymous Anónimo said...

El mercado de la seda! sin duda! es el mejor sitio para compras, donde puedes encontrar todo lo que quieras. Puedes regatear todo lo que quieras y algunos hasta hablan algo de español que han aprendido de los clientes. Esta en la parda de metro de "Yon anli". Tiene 4 o 5 plantas, como una gran centro comercial lleno de paraditas en plan mercadillo.

 
At 5:08 p. m., Anonymous Anónimo said...

hace unos meses estuve en Shenzhen, donde tambien hay mercado llamado el de las copias, realmente viendo los precios que page por aquel entonces creo que me timaron pero la verdad que comparandolos con los precios en España fue una ganga. Una Botas timberland por 25 €. Con respecto al tema de la falsificacion caeis en un error, eso productos que venden en los copy markets, son excedentes de grandes producciones, son la misma calidad en algunos casos, los mismos patrones, telas etc... que lo que puedas comprar en una tienda oficial, la diferencia esta en algunos casos que dichos productos no han pasado el control calidad de las marcas o bien se han hecho en talleres no oficiales. Por lo menos lo que yo compre, comparando el precio calidad, con el un producto en España del mismo valor, la copia China le da mil vueltas.

 
At 1:01 a. m., Anonymous Anónimo said...

soy clarita: voy a viajar a pekin el 27 de abril y como estoy buscando informacion lei su articulo y ademas de aprender me rei mucho, es usted muy divertido.

 
At 7:26 p. m., Blogger nitzia said...

hola me ha gstado esta paguina. Algunos de ustedes me pueden informar si en china venden ropa española. No se manrcas como bershka. Me interes amucho he sabido que el grupo inditex confecciona su ropa en china y la reetiquetan en españa. Endonde puedo conseguir esa ropa en china?. Ayuda please mi correo es batz_maru_16@msn.com escribeme .

 
At 7:26 p. m., Blogger nitzia said...

hola me ha gstado esta paguina. Algunos de ustedes me pueden informar si en china venden ropa española. No se manrcas como bershka. Me interes amucho he sabido que el grupo inditex confecciona su ropa en china y la reetiquetan en españa. Endonde puedo conseguir esa ropa en china?. Ayuda please mi correo es batz_maru_16@msn.com escribeme .

 
At 7:26 p. m., Blogger nitzia said...

hola me ha gstado esta paguina. Algunos de ustedes me pueden informar si en china venden ropa española. No se manrcas como bershka. Me interes amucho he sabido que el grupo inditex confecciona su ropa en china y la reetiquetan en españa. Endonde puedo conseguir esa ropa en china?. Ayuda please mi correo es batz_maru_16@msn.com escribeme .

 
At 12:55 a. m., Anonymous Anónimo said...

hola volvi de china a colombia hace tres dias.
el mercado de las imitaciones de shanghai ahora esta en el sotano del museo tecnologico, justo donde esta una estacion de metro. es bastante tranquilo en comparacion con la locura del edificio de pekin, alli sudas negociando pero encuentras muchas cosas, yo estuve hasta mediodia y tuve que llevar los paquetes al hotel y volver con una maleta para llenarla. no se si lo que encontre sea falso o autentico pero hay cosas muy bonitas y a muy buen precio. es mas les cuento que ya he lavado varias prendas y por lo menos ninguna se ha mariado ni se ha desteñido. en todo caso es una experiencia buenisima que si vas a pekin no te la puedes perder.
ojo hay que tener cuidado porque si negocias una cartera grande te pueden empacar una pequeña. si negocias una camiseta L te pueden empacar una con marquilla L pero que es M. ten cuidado ademas con las vueltas, generalmente te dan menos y aducen que elprecio negociado era mas. En todo caso llene mis maletas y volvi a mi pais muy feliz llena de ropa y otras cositas.

 
At 10:50 a. m., Anonymous Anónimo said...

hola,en primer lugar muchas gracias por el blogg.
Voy a ir este verano a china y habia pensado en comprarme una camara de fotos.Sale rentable comprartela alli? y si es asi donde es mejor, pekin, hong kong...
Muchas gracias

 
At 1:27 p. m., Anonymous Anónimo said...

Hola.

Muchas gracias por vuestro blog, me está resultando muy útil para planificar mi vieje a Chiana en septiembre de 2007. Mi duda es la siguiente: ¿Merece la pena, y se puede hacer con confianza, la compra de una cámara de fotos reflex digital en Shanghai? Alguien tiene alguna referencia de cuanto se puede ahorrar.

Muchas gracias.

 
At 1:59 a. m., Anonymous Anónimo said...

hola, he visitado esta pagina acerca de china, y esque queria informarme acerca de los precios y de las compras... y tambien acerca de la comida... jajaja. y saber si de verdad merece la pena.. yo estoy intusiasmada con irme a china pero lo que mas miedo me da es la comida.
Por cierto enamorabuena por la pagina web.
un besito para todos

 
At 10:33 p. m., Anonymous Anónimo said...

Hola, para la chica que es sudamericana y que se fue en un tour y hasta agarro crucero, seria posible ponernos en contacto yo voy a tomar un tour que visito exactamente los mismo lugares y me gustaria poder platicar contigo algunas cosas mas, mi direccion es zero2100@hotmail.com

 
At 12:39 p. m., Anonymous Anónimo said...

hola a todos soy español, y tengo un negocio en el que mi socio es chino,no es por decepcionaros pero todas esas gangas son marcas falsificadas, el mismo reconoce que el precio de la ropa de marca es igual que en españa.

como el dice si fuera mas barato ellos no exportarian a europa la ropa de bajo coste sino la de marca

saludos.

 
At 7:36 p. m., Anonymous Sonia said...

Hola, me llamo Sonia y buscando en google información sobre Shangai me he encontrado con esto blog que por cierto me ha encantado. Bueno voy al grano :) en Octubre voy a Shangai y me gustaria que me informaseis si realmente en la ADUANA Española te retienen las cosas que has comprado alli y si es asi que puedo hacer para evitar esto. (si se puede hacer algo) Tambien me gustaria que me informaseis sobre mercadillos donde comprar articulos de armani(ropa de vestir, no camisetas de algodon :) )os dejo mi direccion de e-mail por si alguien tiene algun tipo de información plentzia@hotmail.com Gracias

 
At 10:27 p. m., Anonymous Anónimo said...

Apasionante estos regateos y gangas.

Eso sí como me caen bien los perros me guardaría mucho de comprar productos de piel peluda....los chinos fabrican toda clase de productos con las pieles de perros y gatos....algunas vendidas en nuetras tiendas de todo a cien....aparte de que si bien los españoles no somos verdaderos amantes de los animales ver como despellejan vivos animales para extraerle sus pieles da bastante pena. Es curioso como una cultura milenaria tenga tan poca valoración del sufrimiento de un ser vivo...

 
At 4:31 a. m., Blogger yesenia mella said...

hola mi nombre es yesenia y vivo en la republica dominicana y quiero comprar carteras en la china si alguien me puede dar una informacion sera vien resibida mi e mail yesenia.mella@hotmail.com gracias

 
At 4:35 a. m., Blogger yesenia mella said...

hola mi nombre es yesenia de la republica dominicana y quiero que me informen de fabricas de carteras en la china quiero comprar para traer un furgon de carteras si alguine sabe de alguna compania en la china mandame la informacion por favor mi e mail
yesenia.mella@hotmail.com gracias

 
At 3:24 p. m., Anonymous Anónimo said...

Hola, xfavor, si alguien ke a stado en china y lee esto ke me agregue hosivan.91@hotmail.com nos vamos a china mañana!! decidme las marcas de alli xfaaaaaaaaa (x msn gracias)

 
At 5:26 p. m., Anonymous Anónimo said...

hola me llamo José y voy en diciembre a china,la verdad es que no era el destino que yo elegi pero al final vamos alli,pero después de leer las vivencias que habéis tenido, cada vez tengo mas ganas. muchas gracias A TODOS

 
At 6:48 p. m., Blogger lali200012 said...

hola quisiera saber donde puedo comprar carteras al por mayor en china


cuanto sale en dolares una cartera alla por pieza

 
At 7:40 p. m., Blogger anonimo said...

hola, en unos días me voy a Hong Kong y me han dicho que allí puedo comprar ropa barata a pequeños fabricantes directamente, me hana dicho que hay unos barrios o centros comerciales que venden al mayor. ¿alguine sabe dónde puede encontrar esos lugares?. Me voy en 4 días, si alguien sabe algo... me harías un favor..

 
At 3:28 a. m., Anonymous Anónimo said...

miere yo les digo una cosa yo no oienso ir a china por la ropa barata ustedes no se dan cuenta los que hacen esos desgraciados con los animales les sacan la piel y no han visto como pero encierrense en un baso con agua y se vana ahogar van a ver investigan los caraduras le maltratan por no decir de otra manera , por solamente un poco mas de plata yo digo que la tecnologia es muy abanzada ya para seguir haciendo eso ojala que les parta un rayo a todos esos chinos de mierda comprense un invento mueranse prefiero a los pobres e indefensos animales que mueren por dia solamente para abrigos alfombre, etc nossotros no nos vamos a morir por no tener una alfombra o un abrigo menos piennsen investiguen van a ver lo injustos que son. :(

 
At 2:38 a. m., Anonymous Anónimo said...

Al RESPECTO DEL ANOMINO DE LOS PERROS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

no se de donde eres .. pero en todas las partes, se matan a los animales.. acaso resulta que eres vegetariano o macrobietico??? porque la carne q comes es de vaca, y el abrigo que lleva tu mujer o tu madre es de zorro.. asi qno me vengas con los puñeteros chinos y sus puñeteros perros!!!

 
At 10:32 p. m., Anonymous Anónimo said...

Que terrible que ustedes europeos que viven comodamente no sean capaces de pagar el dinero que les piden por los productos aun siendo mas bajos que los que realmente pagarian!. O acaso no saben las condiciones laborales que tienes los asiaticos para fabricar esa zapatilla que tanto te gusta? Un poco de dignidad por favor!!!

 
At 11:58 p. m., Anonymous Anónimo said...

alguien me puede decir cómo son los precios en los duty free de los aeropuertos en China? es que voy de viaje, pero no estaré en china, sólo hago escala y me gustaría saber si los precios son más baratos que en Europa o no me compensa pararme a comprar deportivas y ropa de marca allí.

 
At 5:58 p. m., Anonymous Carol said...

Hola he estado curioseando diversos blog sobre China y el tuyo es mi favortito, es muy completo e interesante. Tengo una pregunta voy a ir a Beijin y tenía pensado comprar algo de electronica en plan un Iphone, portatil, pda etc... ¿Sabes que precios pueden tener esos artículos¨? ¿qe tal son de calidad?
Saludos y enhorabuena por tu blog

 
At 12:41 a. m., Blogger silvia said...

me parecio genial este articulo!!!! despues de haberlo leodo se me ocurrieron ideas estupendas para mi expocion de negociacion y regateos..muy buena narracion ..... felicitaciones

 
At 3:41 p. m., Anonymous Tomy said...

Gracias loco, viajo el 27 para china a competir en los Juegos Olimpicos y esta informacion viene de lujo para aprovechar las compras en los dias libres.

 
At 7:49 p. m., Anonymous Anónimo said...

hola soy de sudamerica mepodrian decir con cuanto de capital sepuede invertir en comprar en china y que tramites aseguir en aduanas en china mismo ejemplo un conteiner de ropa

 
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